Along a similar vein to D's character design thread, the monster design for 4th ed is also vastly simplified.
Even before my realisation of the DM's toolbox in the DMG, I found it easy to look at other monsters of similar level and work off that. In 3rd ed, with the large number of different publications and the definite increase of power of things as time went by, it became a struggle to find any real semblance of balance in ones own creature design.
If anyone has read the description of the storm elemental in the MM3 they'll know what i mean. That creature's opening ability is already a party killer.
The table provided near the back of the DMG for 4th ed is a godsend for those who like to make something a little off centre, becoming more and more useful as players get to know the monsters you throw at them and hence are easily bored by them (or so i feel)
It will only be my 4th ever session of 4th ed but already i've crafted some delightful surprises for the PCs, not that they know any of the monsters from the MM at all yet.
However, i do find that the trap component of the DMG is rather lacking, as it was in the DMG for 3rd ed. This time round there are some tables that help but for some reasons i continually draw blanks as to designing interesting traps, despite loving what they add to an encounter.
Bah, it will work out.
Thursday, July 24, 2008
Wednesday, July 23, 2008
New Classes in Progress
Well, Jetse's posting, I suppose I should make an appearance too ^^
I'm currently working on a couple of new classes - I quite like designing classes for 4th Edition, it feels a lot more straightforward than it did in 3rd. There is a few reasons there:
I'm currently working on a couple of new classes - I quite like designing classes for 4th Edition, it feels a lot more straightforward than it did in 3rd. There is a few reasons there:
- 3rd Edition, some classes do feel like there is consideration made for what the class gets when - for example, the Swashbuckler class (findable in Complete Warrior) is very frontloaded, has considerable powers in their higher levels, and it seems like in compensation, its middle levels are barren.
In 4th Edition, classes seem to be aimed at the 'now', which makes things far easier to work with, and there is a tight structure for what sort of things a class gets when. This and the Niche design of 4th are a really handy combination for class design. - 4th Edition classes have defined roles, which while 'restricting', thats actually really handy for designing a class. You say to yourself "this is a striker", and you know, based on the other striker classes, where this needs to be in terms of power.
- 4th Edition has one unified system for class abilities (well, there is also the "class features", but they are not nearly as extensive in quantity). This makes many things really, really straightforward.
For example, one class I'm homebrewing is a Martial Artist - a striker specialising in unarmed combat. For designing his "at-will" damage dealer (he has several, but I notice the ranger and rogue tend to have a 'key' power for this). I can see immediately what this power needs to be like, by looking at the key at will damage dealers of these classes.
After a long lapse of writing anything interesting on here (uni being on holiday i had nothing to procrastinate from) I thought i'd snag a quick post in regards to both keep on the shadowfell and my own dungeoncrawl adventure. Both of these are being run in 4th ed.
I had a bag of holding's worth of misgivings about 4th ed (type 3 if anyones interested) but this may have come largely from having been part of some form of 3rd ed DnD session for the last 10 years or so. Having now played it several times (including the opportunity to test it out at my local gaming store pre-release to the actual books) i can easily say that i thoroughly enjoy it.
Lets face it, they've got the combat right and i do mean RIGHT. A couple of examples to this would be (from my campaign) the players facing more than 10 goblins of varying levels on a bridge of ice over a gaping chasm as well as a warlock at lvl 4... with them only being lvl 1 and having just fought their way through the first part of the ransacked water temple (see earlier post for the teaser)
I'm not saying it was easy, hell it took 3 of the 5 party members down, but by god it was fun. Intense even.
Secondly the keep on the shadowfell. We had a poor turnout with only 3 player characters. D was kind enough to let us ding to 2 (for balance) and we soon found out why. after a close call on the king's road (no healers save for my fighter with the heal skill who managed to get the others back on their feet mid-combat with a well placed action point) we fought our way through a horde of kobolds at the entrance to their cavern. Literally, a goddamn horde. with a vast amount of luck and no small amount of skill we managed with 3 people to beat the encounter that most 5 man parties apparently TPK on. hooray for us! I believe the turnaround point was the ranger (after most of us telling him that if he didnt roll that 20 to stabilise, we'd all be dead) rolled that 20.
Naturally i still have some gripes about the system, like no craft skills, but to be honest all of these can be gotten around with some easy ad libbing and house ruling. Nothing us veteran players or DMs should balk at or fear.
4th ed ftw.
I had a bag of holding's worth of misgivings about 4th ed (type 3 if anyones interested) but this may have come largely from having been part of some form of 3rd ed DnD session for the last 10 years or so. Having now played it several times (including the opportunity to test it out at my local gaming store pre-release to the actual books) i can easily say that i thoroughly enjoy it.
Lets face it, they've got the combat right and i do mean RIGHT. A couple of examples to this would be (from my campaign) the players facing more than 10 goblins of varying levels on a bridge of ice over a gaping chasm as well as a warlock at lvl 4... with them only being lvl 1 and having just fought their way through the first part of the ransacked water temple (see earlier post for the teaser)
I'm not saying it was easy, hell it took 3 of the 5 party members down, but by god it was fun. Intense even.
Secondly the keep on the shadowfell. We had a poor turnout with only 3 player characters. D was kind enough to let us ding to 2 (for balance) and we soon found out why. after a close call on the king's road (no healers save for my fighter with the heal skill who managed to get the others back on their feet mid-combat with a well placed action point) we fought our way through a horde of kobolds at the entrance to their cavern. Literally, a goddamn horde. with a vast amount of luck and no small amount of skill we managed with 3 people to beat the encounter that most 5 man parties apparently TPK on. hooray for us! I believe the turnaround point was the ranger (after most of us telling him that if he didnt roll that 20 to stabilise, we'd all be dead) rolled that 20.
Naturally i still have some gripes about the system, like no craft skills, but to be honest all of these can be gotten around with some easy ad libbing and house ruling. Nothing us veteran players or DMs should balk at or fear.
4th ed ftw.
Monday, July 7, 2008
Going Forward
Well, I've caved and bought the 4th books - my gaming group, since Jetse's 4th Ed dungeoncrawl sessions, has been raving about it. From Jetse's description of the dungeoncrawl, I would say a decent amount of said raving is due to fun design on his part (including a rather cool trap-as-an-event encounter, on a crumbling stone spire), but some of that raving is about concepts I really like.
I've also ordered Keep on the Shadowfel, which I'll run to get a better understanding of the system. After that, its updating time - things that I've been tinkering away on, now to tinker further, adjusting to 4th. I suspect I won't make anything I'm happy with the idea of publishing for a long time. It's like me running campaigns.
Anyways, should be interesting. I've ordered the books from Amazon, so they will most likely arrive in 2 weeks or so.
I've also ordered Keep on the Shadowfel, which I'll run to get a better understanding of the system. After that, its updating time - things that I've been tinkering away on, now to tinker further, adjusting to 4th. I suspect I won't make anything I'm happy with the idea of publishing for a long time. It's like me running campaigns.
Anyways, should be interesting. I've ordered the books from Amazon, so they will most likely arrive in 2 weeks or so.
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